Covid-19 Podcast from Italy with Roberto Cosentini. St Emlyn’s

Dr Roberto Cosentini is an old friend of St Emlyn’s who works in Bergamo, in Northern Italy. He is right at the heart of the recent Covid-19 outbreak. He kindly found an hour to record a podcast with us on his experiences. Click on the link below to listen

There are so many essential lessons in this podcast. Please share with clinical and non-clinical colleagues, as we need to plan NOW. Roberto is quite clear that if we don’t train and get plans into place before the wave of cases hit us, then both ourselves and our patients will suffer.

In the interest of speed I’m not going to summarise the whole podcast. You have to listen to it all yourself to see what’s relevant to you. These are some of my takeaway messages.

• Divide your department into resp patients and non-resp patients.
• Wear PPE and know how to use it.
• You will need clinicians who do not usually work in ED. Train and orientate them now (before you need them).
• Most patients are hypoxic and this responds to O2 and CPAP. You’re going to need a lot of CPAP and how that happens could be tricky. They found hoods the best (Ed – but how many of those do we have?).
• Although hypoxic, patients have good lung compliance.
• They regularly saw diurnal variation with many patients presenting in the early afternoon.
• It’s emotionally exhausting. Prepare yourself and your team psychologically and support them during the pandemic. Roberto’s department has an embedded psychologist.
• Health care worker infections were quite low (because they wore PPE for all resp cases).
• Flow through the department and onto wards is absolutely vital.
• Flow out the the main hospitals to other units that can rehabilitate is vital.
• Decisions for ICU level care were similar to normal (in his hospital).

We rarely declare one of our podcasts a ‘must listen’ but this is an exception. Please listen and share widely. Please think hard about the issues Roberto raises and PLEASE ACT NOW.

Also please note our call for papers at the EMJ on the link below. Also have a look at Salim’s link to a similar vodcast on ICU management from Italy. You can also use this link to the RCEM page on Covid-19.

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Professor Simon Carley MB ChB, PGDip, DipIMC (RCS Ed), FRCS (Ed)(1998), FHEA, FAcadMed, FRCEM, MPhil, MD, PhD is Creator, Webmaster, owner and Editor in Chief of the St Emlyn’s blog and podcast. He is Professor of Emergency Medicine at Manchester Metropolitan University and a Consultant in adult and paediatric Emergency Medicine at Manchester Foundation Trust. He is co-founder of BestBets, St.Emlyns and the MSc in emergency medicine at Manchester Metropolitan University. He is an Education Associate with the General Medical Council and is an Associate Editor for the Emergency Medicine Journal. His research interests include diagnostics, MedEd, Major incidents & Evidence based Emergency Medicine. He is verified on twitter as @EMManchester

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